December23
This mistake is unfortunately a big one. I’ve learned my lesson and I am moving on to bigger and better things because of it (as long as they don’t sue us). This is the last type of thing I thought I would blog about. Stealing (or Plagiarism) is a big no no in business. Even if someone doesn’t do it with a malicious attitude or mindset, it is still very dangerous.
For the company that my business partner and I created (Control Yours ), we kind of copied a look and feel to someone elses website. It was another businesses website. The worst thing was that we didn’t ask there permission for us to use the look and feel. [We weren't trying to represent ourselves as them, we weren't trying to steal their product line, we just loved the way their website felt and we wanted that feeling for our own site.]
We’d heard of this little computer program called Blue Crab that allows us to copy parts or all of someone’s website to use for your own uses. This idea works really well in an open source world, but not the copyright, copy protected day of today (we won’t do this again).
We copied their site and used part of it, loved the rest and ended up modifying a lot of it for our own use (big mistake).
Panic.com/coda
ControlYours.com
I received an email (10 to be exact) from this company and people of this company (or friends or something). They were all a little perturbed that our site looked very similar to theirs. I now have a choice to make, lie to them about some crazy shit answer or tell them the butt honest truth. I tell them the truth, here is how my email went:
Hello,
Well, where do we start? Yes, we did copy the coda.com website. We didn’t do it as a malicious attack, or an intent to steal panic.com’s business or program sales, just the opposite in fact. We’ve actually purchased multiple products from Panic (Coda and CandyBar). Not that it makes it any less plagiaristic because we are fans of your products. (No, we don’t deserve a pat on the back!)
We are extremely sorry for “ripping off” your beautiful work! Sincerely! At first it started with us falling in love with your JavaScript ‘flow design’ on the main content area. After searching the web for hours to find where and how to accomplish this on a site of our own, we decided to ‘Blue Crab’ the code from your site. “What’s the harm in ‘burrowing’ some code?”, we thought. One thing led to another and we ended up falling more in love with your design, and using more than planned (basically the entire design, minus the content).
We are not proud of not asking for permission. We are not proud of having you find out this way without us coming to you first. We would like to see if there can be some sort of arangement we can make to keep this design or something similar.
Our services we sell, don’t use custom designed website (it is not what we do…obviously!). We are strictly in the market of helping small businesses have low cost CMS websites they can manage themselves. We have a total of two partners in our business with 15 current business clients (not that being a small business makes it any better to be dishonest). Again, we really apologize for using your design to our advantage without your up front permission.
Please let us know what you would like us to do and we will work with you to get that accomplished.
Thank you very much for letting us answer your email questions honestly,
The Control Yours Team.
(p) (866) 574-8820
(e) contact@controlyours.com
Half of me expects a full out retaliation on their behalf and the other half of me expects them to say, we’ll let it slide ‘this time’! What ever the outcome, we have done something that you can learn from. This is the only reason I would blog about this, I almost hid it under the carpet!
Learn from my lesson and grow your business the 100% honest way, with full out integrety and respect.
Bad Chais! Bad!
Have an Awesome Day
~Chais Meyer
Update:
First email response I received back-
Hi-
I do not work for panic. I am a fan of their software and of the people who make. I noticed that one of the founders linked to your page, pinging it as a rip off. I am including the two most vocal Panic-ers (Steven F. and Cabel) on this email so you can clear things with them. Have a good christmas, regardless – at least you have immaculate taste on who to copy!
-Justin
Second email responce I received back:
Howdy,
Thanks much for writing, I appreciate your honesty.
The answer is probably not one you want to hear but you probably already have realized: there’s real no logical way to keep your site, or even anything similar, without it remaining, to be blunt, a rip-off.
There are a million original websites out there waiting to be designed, and a million people on the web ready to help you. It’ll be way more fulfilling for you, personally and professionally, to contribute something new to the web, rather than retread something that already exists. I have confidence you can create a site as good as, or better than, the one we already made.
Best,
Cabel
Panic
Third email response I received back:
Hi Control Yours Team,
Sixty days sounds fine to me. Thanks.
Best,
Cabel